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Wanting to know some of the downsides to being a professional pilot

TylersDad — Mon, 06 May 2013 17:24:00 +0200

Hello. I am entertaining the idea of building up flt hours with hopes of pursuing a career in aviation. (I'm 39 and not very satisfied with working at a desk job).
Now I'm old enough to realize that the grass ALWAYS looks greener on the other side, and that often things are not what they seem. Non pilot's view of being a professional pilot is often, "wow, what a cool job!"
I'd like to ask some of you cargo or corporate pilots (as this is the area I'd most likely attempt to land a job in) what some of the NEGATIVE aspects of the job are. Does sitting in the cockpit, on A/P at 35k feet en route get dull after awhile? Does constant traveling get really old? Etc? There's a retired UAL pilot at my weekly poker game who tells me he LOVED his career and misses it every single day. That's a hell of a ringing endorsement for aviators. However, even he admitted that he flew during the "glory days" of aviation and that it wasn't nearly as fun post 9/11. But he said flying the 777 was a dream and he looked forward to work everyday. If I hear enough stories like that, I am going to go for it! If I hear a lot of other, more negative stories, I will do some soul searching and weigh my options I suppose. But my heart is in the sky, I'll tell you that, and I do not think I was cut out to work behind a PC in an office all day long!
Thanks for all the help!

Flight training

rpanand — Wed, 01 May 2013 10:20:00 +0200

Hey am Anand..doing my computer science engineering in India, 3rd year but i want to b a pilot
I hav my own desire to become a pilot but i am confused of where to get the quality pilot training and not sure about job offers for pilots world wide ...since i can see the jobless pilots community in many webpages(social networks)...
After investing the high amounts into this training and not getting a job will be thw worst one i think so....please help me out ..and also let me know about the whole cost of training to get an ATPL.

regards
anand

Best Jobs for 40 year old Rookies

TylersDad — Mon, 29 Apr 2013 20:18:41 +0200

Hello. I've posted here before with a similar question. Basically I hate my office job and REALLY regret not going all the way after getting my PPL at age 18. I stopped flying in college to pursue a promising baseball career that never panned out, had a family and took an office job. Typical story I guess LOL. But now I'm 40, haven't flown in 20 years and am just so upset I didn't stick with it. I'd like to build more hours up in hopes of landing a job. I know the majors are pretty much out, and that's fine with me. I'd be happy to fly for a small carrier, be it cargo, or corporate or something along those lines.

(1) Are there any non CFI jobs that are doable with LESS THAN 1500 hrs flight time? (For instance 2nd seat in a turbo prop flying cargo locally)

(2) I live near SJC. Intel has their own ERJs and a shuttle service they operate out of SJC (flying mostly shortish runs along the west coast). I can only imagine this job must be uber competitive and nearly impossible to land, but where would pilots even hear about this type of opening? I'm sure Intel does NOT post this job on their job board. So how do they recruit their pilots?

I'd appreciate any other feedback anyone can offer. I don't know enough about the industry today and I'm about to make a major, life changing decision.

Thanks and good luck to all!

James

CPL Pilot is searching job!

CPLPilot — Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:47:20 +0200

Short CV for employer:
1. Date of birth: 1982 (30)
2. Nationality Ukraine;
3. CPL (A);
4. An-2, DA-42 (Glass Cockpit);
5. ME, IR;
6. 1 class medical Certificate (exp.17.12.2013);
7. 4 Level English Certificate;
8. Initial Theoretical Training to Radiotelefony Communication, ICAO (International Flight Rules Training)Certificate;
9. Fire-fighting, smoke, ditching, water survival training Certificate;
10. CRM Certificate;
11. Aviation Security Certificate;
12. DG Certificate;
13. Education: 1. Institute (interpreter) Higher; 2. Kirovohrad State Flight Academy (Flight operation, Air Navigation) Distance;
14. Languages: English, Arabic, Russian, Ukrainian
15. Travel passport;
16. Contact details: pilot-cpl(at)yandex[dot]ru
Thank you in advance for your reply!

Easyjet 2014 recruitment, now open

fliteadmin — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:27:33 +0100

Easyjet is making a change into the right direction. Also experienced pilots get the opportunity to join them.
http://careers.easyjet.com/careers-in-the-air/pilot-careers/

University student needs your help!

fliteadmin — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 23:11:36 +0100

Thanks for posting the survey. I hope you get a good number of pilots that complete the questionnaire.

University student needs your help!

yelsnat — Wed, 13 Mar 2013 21:22:23 +0100

I am a third year student currently studying for an Air Transport degree at Buckinghamshire New University, High Wycombe, UK. As part of my final studies, I am required to complete a research project. The subject of my research is to examine how the new EASA rules will affect Pilot Fatigue.
The European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) has recently issued a final proposal to the European Commission on flight duty times and rest requirements. EASA's mission statement is to set up the highest common standards of safety and environmental protection in civil aviation, claiming their new rules are based on scientific evidence and risk assessment. The British Airline Pilots Association (BALPA) acknowledges many of the changes to be of detrimental effect. The following statements included in the questionnaire are BALPA's top concerns, and your opinion to agree or disagree whether they are safe would be vastly appreciated.
The link to the questionnaire (takes about 1-2 mins to complete) - http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/RGGTKM6
Ultimately your opinions collected through this questionnaire are important to the success of my study.
All of the information collected will remain completely confidential and only be used for the purpose of this project.
If you do have the time and fill this out I cant thank you enough. Its really worthwhile and if any of you would like to see the results from the research when its finished I would more than happily inform you.
TL; DR University student needs your opinions by filling out very short questionnaire about EASA's new rules. Thanks in advance!

Pay2fly schemes at Lion Air, how unsafe can it get?

ekranoplan — Sun, 10 Feb 2013 01:10:36 +0100

Dear kiwi

"The ones that have gone on to other airlines (Europe, Middle East, Asia and Pacific) have all told me that the training and line training was some of the hardest and best they have ever received. "

Was that because it was their first Line flying or because there was little guidance?

"Some of them are ex air force (1 man cockpit).The abbreviation MCC is a word and a course unheard of by many."

Sounds rather stereotypical - most single pilot fighter crew fight in a network centric environment which is far more "multi crew" than most civilian pilots know. The first and probably still the premier flying school that was copied by so many others was CFS - a military establishment. CRM was developed by NASA and the military before it came first to US airlines under the FAA and spread abroad.

Post Colgan 3407, how many US airlines use P2FP?

"
P2F schemes are still running in Europe, There are several airlines in Western as well as in Eastern Europe doing this. Some of these schemes are “disguised” very cleverly and have fancy names but they are no different from the basic P2F. The P2F issue can only be solved if the local civil aviation authorities together with the pilot unions stand up. I think it is also on the time to stop these aviation academies ”luring” students to become pilot who then spend a lot of money, and not knowing that there is no job available when training is completed."

Agree with most of that - however it is up to the desperate individual with too much cash to burn to say no as well. It is also necessary to get this into the mainstream media so the flying public become aware of how bad things have become.

eg:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2274412/EasyJets-new-jobs-initiative-tagged-extremely-disingenuous-The-British-Airline-Pilots-Association.html

Pay2fly schemes at Lion Air, how unsafe can it get?

ekranoplan — Sun, 10 Feb 2013 01:02:02 +0100

Sadly it is not hard to find information on Lion Air problems:

A few accidents in recent years:

On 14 January 2002, Lion Air Flight 386, a Boeing 737-200 crashed on take-off and was written off; no one was killed.
On 30 November 2004, Lion Air Flight 538, a McDonnell Douglas MD-82, crashed in Surakarta, killing 25 people.[23]
On 4 March 2006, Lion Air Flight 8987, a McDonnell Douglas MD-82, crashed after landing at Juanda International Airport.[24] Reverse thrust was used during landing, although the left thrust reverser was stated to be out of service.[24] This caused the aircraft to veer to the right and skid off the runway, coming to rest about 7,000 feet (2,100 m) from the approach end of the runway.[24] No-one was killed but the aircraft was badly damaged.[24]
On 24 December 2006, Lion Air Flight 792, a Boeing 737-400, landed with an incorrect flap configuration and was not aligned with the runway.[25] The plane landed hard and skidded along the runway causing the right main landing gear to detach, the left gear to protrude through the wing and some of the aircraft fuselage to be wrinkled.[25] No one was killed and the aircraft was written off.[25]
On 2 November 2010, Lion Air Flight 712, a Boeing 737-400 (registration PK-LIQ) overran the runway on landing at Supadio Airport, Pontianak, coming to rest on its belly and sustaining damage to its nose gear. All 174 passengers and crew evacuated by the emergency slides, with few injuries reported.[26]

Crews using drugs:

In January 2012, the Transportation Ministry said that it sanctioned Lion Air because some of its pilots and crew members were found in recent months to be in possession of crystal methamphetamine. In late 2011 Muhammad Nasri and two other co-pilots were arrested at a party in Tangerang; and in early 2012 a pilot was caught in possession of crystal meth in Makassar.[9] On 4 February 2012, another Lion Air pilot was arrested following a positive urinalysis test for use of methamphetamine; he was scheduled to fly on Surabaya-Makassar-Balikpapan-Surabaya flight hours later.[10] The licenses of the pilots and crew have been revoked.

Pay2fly schemes at Lion Air, how unsafe can it get?

kiwi-99 — Sat, 09 Feb 2013 21:48:21 +0100

Hi ekranoplan,

I don’t think as a general statement it is fair to say that Lion Air has “poor flying standards”. There are issues that need to be addressed and I believe they are being addressed at the moment.

The owner of Lion Air Mr. Rusdi Kirana has just recently sacked most of his corrupt heads of the flying and operations department (chief Pilot, chief training Pilot etc., etc.). An action which was long overdue. I personally think that up to this point of time Mr. Rusdi Kirana was not aware of what was going within that department. He has finally realized that these guys where causing much of the damage to the reputation of Lion Air.

I personally know more than a few pilots that have flown for and some are still flying with Lion Air. The ones that have gone on to other airlines (Europe, Middle East, Asia and Pacific) have all told me that the training and line training was some of the hardest and best they have ever received. The line training captains were of excellent quality and of a very high standard.

The problems usually commence when the line training is finished. A large number of older captains with huge amount of hours (mostly locals) think they are “God”. They do not always work according to SOP (to express it very modestly) and most of all lack competencies in “crew management”. Some of them are ex air force (1 man cockpit).The abbreviation MCC is a word and a course unheard of by many. This will result in lack of communication within the cockpit and the results, together with not operating according to standard Boeing or company procedures; I do not need to explain further. Most of the captains smoke in the cockpit and don’t give a s...t about the others. Naturally there are always exceptions. The freshly upgraded captain’s work according to the books and this has been confirmed by many of my friends. The duty times and the lack of time off is another problem, although they are always within the international limits.

The new regulations issued by the Indonesian DGCA concerning the 5’000ft limit for F/O again clearly shows the incompetency and corruption within the DGCA there. It once again does not address the issues which are duty times, working according to standard procedures, and crew recourse management and all that goes with it. They simply put the blame on the weakest, easy way out, problem solved.

Eagle Jet and others with P2F schemes no longer have contracts with Lion Air due to the fact that with the new airline Malindo Airways (Malaysia), a joint venture between NADI of Malaysia and Lion Air, Lion Air has promised to more than 600 young unemployed Malaysian pilots a job with Lion Air if they pass the entry exams. That is the reason why Lion Air for the moment do not need any foreign pilots. From what I have heard, all of the foreign pilots employed there at the moment, will keep their jobs.

P2F schemes are still running in Europe, There are several airlines in Western as well as in Eastern Europe doing this. Some of these schemes are “disguised” very cleverly and have fancy names but they are no different from the basic P2F. The P2F issue can only be solved if the local civil aviation authorities together with the pilot unions stand up. I think it is also on the time to stop these aviation academies ”luring” students to become pilot who then spend a lot of money, and not knowing that there is no job available when training is completed.

Just one more thing on the side:
You have mentioned that there are very good reasons for Lion Air to be “blacklisted”. What about all of these US Airlines that have to pay millions of dollar fines for not doing correct maintenance, letting aircraft fly with passengers although they have safety issues over and over again. Why are they not “blacklisted” and in some cases banned from flying to Europe???????

Fly for Air New Zealand

ekranoplan — Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:32:45 +0100

Kiwi 99 is correct - but in a way it is understandable. At least Aus, NZ, Canada and USA are giving a career path to pilots where they build experience and move up a ladder unlike the EU zero to hero MPL/cadet/Flexicrew and P2F schemes.

As a result GA and TP flying is ignored and shrinks.

Now we see Flybe pilots made redundant with no chance of using their excellent skills in jet airlines....

"
February 6, 2013 at 2:10 pm

Flybe are proposing to bring their jet in on the 31st of march and to do so they are going to make approximately 10 guernsey based locally qualified pilots redundant and effectively outsource their pilots to the Southampton base.
They are going to pay more in redundancy costs to those pilots than it would cost to re-train them to fly the jet..( approximately 3 months pilots salary)"

Job outlook with type rating but no experience

ekranoplan — Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:25:14 +0100

Yes CTC cadets worked for EZY but the first 6 months they were paid around £1000 out of their own training fees having forked out £120k for training and A319 rating.
Then some went back to bar jobs.
Now easy claim to have employed 330 pilots but it is false info and BALPA have exposed it as untrue.
Basically contract pilots under Flexi Crew who had paid for Type Rating and 6 months work were then paid a bit more to stay on.

EZY realised they could make more money if they offered these guys a full time contract but on lower pay and conditions than the last full time deals of 2008.
See:
http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/Articles/2013/02/04/43035/easyjet+slammed+over+disingenuous+jobs+announcement.html

Pay2fly schemes at Lion Air, how unsafe can it get?

ekranoplan — Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:20:03 +0100

Kiwi 99
It's not the engineers or maintenance that is teh issue with Lion Air - it is the poor flying standards.

There are very good reasons why theyu have been blacklisted and it has to do with the number of reportable incidents with basically new machinery.

The fact is not only have Eagle jet cadets been refused P2FP (pay to fly passengers and take an employee's job) but the Indonesian authorities have stipulated NO FO is to fly the aircraft below 5000 feet!!!

This is of course crazy as the FO will not learn much without hands on T/O and landings and it makes a mockery of two crew ops.

However most of Lion Air's accidents have been in the T/O and ldg phase because of huge inexperience and stressed out Captains.

Similar schemes were running in the EU in 2008-2011 and thankfully most have been stopped but there are still Fly for Free FOs on 6 month Flexi contracts and the stress is showing:
Read UK CHIRP 101 and 105 here:
http://www.chirp.co.uk/feedback-list.asp?fb=AT

Job outlook with type rating but no experience

Commit — Sat, 09 Feb 2013 13:35:50 +0100

Strange because many pilots who made a CTC program finally worked with Easyjet as first officer. Some where let go due to major mistakes or even tail strikes during landing.

In any case it is better to don't pay type ratings in advance. It is better to pay just if there is a contract signed.

Pilot jobs

Pay2fly schemes at Lion Air, how unsafe can it get?

Commit — Sat, 09 Feb 2013 13:32:18 +0100

It looks Lion Air has been stopped from hiring fresh cadets from Eagle Jet Flight. It is now required to hire just type rated pilots with 500hrs on type

Flight Training Schools for Professional Pilot Programs

TheYalg — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 18:44:19 +0100

Good Day Everyone,

Researching into being a pilot it ive decided I dont want to push my dream aside of being a airline pilot. With knowing the hardships that come with the job I will be looking to apply to a flight school, hopefully in the coming September, to a full program to go from private license to MEI licenses and start my career there.

Ive researched a few places and im writing here to ask where the best programs are from pilots who have been through this path (I live on East Coast US and would prefer a location there, but not necessary). Below are a few places that I have looked at:

National Aviation Academy
Aerosim
ATP - Trenton
Falcon Aviation
Aviator Flight Training Academy
Phoenix East
Academy of Aviation
American Flyers
Delware State University
Farmingdale University

Thank you again to everyone for your helpful advice, have a great day and safe travels.

Lots of CRM issues here: Hard Landing by easyjet at Luton

fliteadmin — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 11:16:01 +0100

Thanks ekranoplan. Very interesting case which we can learn from.

The unstable approach at the beginning started it all. It's not a guarantee for a bad outcome, but often a contributing factor.

Both pilots had some experience on type, but more would have helped (perhaps).
Nose down input below 50ft...
No clear worksplit during the go-around, both pilots made inputs, takeover sidestick pushbutton not used
Airbus sidestick computer flying is more demanding in windy conditions than a 'conventional design'...
...and all this after flying an approach with manual thrust. Something that is not used very often.

Need some advice

fliteadmin — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:55:02 +0100

I second ekranoplan. Well said.

Flight training

fliteadmin — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:53:09 +0100

Hi Rakesh,

Welcome aboard. Sorry for my late answer, was very busy recently!

First of all, I think it's a good plan to finish your degree first. This helps in case you cannot find a job after your flight training or anytime later in your life.

About
1) Unfortunatly I do not know how good the chances are for employment. perhaps FS can give you some more information on this? E.g. how many students that went for this scheme, they hired after completion of training?

2)I would think so, but FS should be able to give you assurance on this. After all they are interested in your money, so I am pretty sure they will give you an answer on this.

3)It depends in which region of the world and for what kind of job you apply. In Europe it is not worth so much as the whole career ladder scheme is somewhat different compared to the US. I would say, it might be a little help to get more experience and some more hours on your resume. 800 hours looks better than 200 hours

4)Not sure on this. If a company wants you, they would probably try to get a visa for you. But then there are a lot of locals that after the jobs too, so I see the chances to get a job as relatively low. Maybe you find the love of your life in the US and that would change things

Need some advice

ekranoplan — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:33:18 +0100

CPL/IR is just the start of learning to fly and making a go at a career. You need to build experience and airmanship. Try to get a local job at a Flight School, GA outfit, turbo prop airline. Avoid those who say you must pay to fly passengers.

If you are under 45 yrs old you have a chance to make it a long career but it is not a good way to make money!

Enjoy your flying!

Lots of CRM issues here: Hard Landing by easyjet at Luton

ekranoplan — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:29:39 +0100

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bulletins/january_2013/airbus_a319_111__g_ezfv.cfm

Need some advice

ImranShouket — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:53:57 +0100

Hey Fellow Pilots, just need some advise. I currently have a CPL/IR + Multi-engine rating from Pakistan CAA. So what else should I do so that at least I can get a Job in an Airline, or in a corporate. Advise needed...

Flight training

Potterpants — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:05:19 +0100

Hi
I am new to flightwork. Me Rakesh , am currently doing my undergraduate in Mechanical Eng. in India. I am aspiring to be an airline pilot..and to fly the skies like any other confident pilot..
then again even i have got doubts about venturing into avaition with the current market scenario being bad.

I am planning to do my flight training in US once i am done with my degree.
1. I was thinking FlightSafety US. They seem to offer F1 visa which allows the trainee eligible for prolonged stay to qualify for Flight Instructor Certification and eligible for consideration for employement with them as Flight Instructor. then again it is not assured employement. this F1 scheme demands another 9000 $ i think without any assurance for employement. I was wondering does anyone have views on this.

2.Also i was thinking whether the employment scenario for the same ( Flight Instructor jobs) for international students?

3. Does Flight Instructor Certification (without sucessful employement) serve as another good qualification that companies would like to see on resumes.

4. There are good chances of getting stranded after finishing the CPL course. Is ther ways i can stay back in US and hunt for jobs like charter flying etc.( i mean the visa thing..i am not much aware of the visa requirements).

Happy new year
best regards
Rakesh Kumar

Greeting from Malaysia

Tomcat_FR — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 04:54:44 +0100

Welcome aboard !

A320 First Officer Jump Start Program for Non-type rated pilots

ekranoplan — Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:38:47 +0100

If only < zero applied

I know of 1 guy who paid to fly 100h with easyJet and another who paid Airnamibia for A320 time - and of course they are now unemployed with even more debt !

DA-20 First Officer (Belleville, MI)

crew4jets — Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:52:39 +0100

Company Name: USA Jet Airlines
Internal Code:
Position: DA-20 First Officer (Belleville, MI)
Description: DA-20 First Officer

USA Jet Airlines operates a fleet of MD-80, DC-9 and DA-20
aircraft under 14 CFR Part 121 Supplemental Air Carrier
certificate providing on-demand cargo and passenger charter
services throughout North America, the Caribbean, Central and
South America. Headquartered at the Willow Run Airport near Ann
Arbor, Michigan, the Active Aero Group, including Active Aero
Group Charter and USA Jet Airlines, Inc. is the largest full
service, on-demand Air Cargo Charter Company in North America.

SUMMARY: The DA-20 First Officers are responsible to the
Captain/Chief Pilot.

ESSENTIAL DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES: include the following.
Other duties may be assigned.

Perform flight operations in accordance with 14 CFR Part 135
operation specifications.

Self-motivated team players with a strong work ethic.

Flexibility for on-demand, ad-hoc, 24/7/365 flight operations.

Perform other non-flight related duties (i.e. cargo loading, TSA,
customs, etc.)

QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENTS: To perform this job successfully, an
individual must be able to perform each essential duty
satisfactorily. The requirements listed below are representative
of the knowledge, skill, and/or ability required. Reasonable
accommodations may be made to enable individuals with
disabilities to perform the essential functions.

Meet minimum 1,200 TT, 750 MEL, 250 PIC
100% of rotor wing time counts towards total, 50% of ME rotor
wing time counts towards MEL totals, up to 740 hours
Must have minimum 100 hours’ time logged in last 12 months
(prefer turbine and/or multi engine experience.
No felony convictions. No misdemeanor or DUI/DWI convictions
within last 7 years.
No accidents, incidents or other violations allowable unless
pre-approved by Director of Operations and Chief Operating Officer.
Be willing to take a drug test.
Be willing to undergo a back ground and credit check prior to
hire.
Be able to furnish proof of eligibility for employment in the
United States and hold a current U.S. Passport.
Must hold an FCC license.
Must be capability to obtain a CANPass for expediting customs.
For pilots hired outside the Detroit area, they must be able
to relocated or establish local residence for days on duty/call.
Able to report to the airport within 30 minutes for ASAP flights.
Be willing to work scheduled holidays and weekends.
Duty rig flight credits for mandatory company assigned training.
11 hard days off per month.
Must be willing to travel extensively, both domestic and
international.

EDUCATION and/or EXPERIENCE:

Meet minimum 1,200 TT, 750 MEL, 250 PIC
100% of rotor wing time counts towards total, 50% of ME rotor
wing time counts towards MEL totals, up to 740 hours
High school diploma required, college degree preferred.

LANGUAGE SKILLS: Ability to read and comprehend simple
instructions, short correspondence, and memos. Ability to write
simple correspondence. Ability to effectively present information
in one-on-one and small group situations to customers, clients,
and other employees of the organization. Fluent English is
required, additional languages would be helpful.

MATHEMATICAL SKILLS: Ability to add, subtract, multiply, and
divide in all units of measure, using whole numbers, common
fractions, and decimals.

REASONING ABILITY: Ability to apply commonsense understanding to
carry out instructions furnished in written, oral, or diagram
form. Ability to deal with problems involving several concrete
variables in standardized situations.

CERTIFICATES, LICENSES, REGISTRATIONS:

FAA Commercial Pilot MEL license (with not restrictions of
waivers that would prevent performing assigned duties)
First class medical
FCC license
U.S. Passport

OTHER SKILLS and ABILITIES: Communication skills, and basic
typing/computer skills are required. Knowledge in internet,
Microsoft applications.

PHYSICAL DEMANDS: The physical demands described here are
representative of those that must be met by an employee to
successfully perform the essential functions of this job.
Employee may occasionally lift boxes or move pallets up to

While performing the duties of this job, the employee is
regularly required to sit; use hands to finger, handle, or feel
objects, tools, or controls; and talk or hear. The employee
frequently is required to reach with hands and arms. The employee
is occasionally required to stand; walk; and stoop, kneel,
crouch, or crawl.

WORK ENVIRONMENT: The work environment characteristics described
here are representative of those an employee encounters while
performing the essential functions of this job. Reasonable
accommodations may be made to enable individuals with
disabilities to perform the essential functions.

While performing the duties of this job, the employee is
occasionally exposed to fumes or airborne particles. The noise
level in the work environment is usually moderate.

apply online.

USA Jet Airlines is an Equal Opportunity Employer.
Address:

USA Jet Airlines
2068 E Street.
Belleville, MI 48111

Application info:
http://www.avianation.com/aviation_jobs/jobDetail.cfm?jobID=12363727236&tparm=0

DC-9 First Officer (Belleville, MI)

crew4jets — Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:51:10 +0100

Company Name: USA Jet Airlines
Internal Code:
Position: DC-9 First Officer (Belleville, MI)
Description: DC-9 First Officer

USA Jet Airlines operates a fleet of MD-80, DC-9 and DA-20
aircraft under 14 CFR Part 121 Supplemental Air Carrier
certificate providing on-demand cargo and passenger charter
services throughout North America, the Caribbean, Central and
South America. Headquartered at the Willow Run Airport near Ann
Arbor, Michigan, the Active Aero Group, including Active Aero
Group Charter and USA Jet Airlines, Inc. is the largest full
service, on-demand Air Cargo Charter Company in North America.

SUMMARY: The DC-9 First Officers are responsible to the
Captain/Chief Pilot.

ESSENTIAL DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES: include the following.
Other duties may be assigned.

Perform flight operations in accordance with 14 CFR Part 121
operation specifications.
Self-motivated team players with a strong work ethic.
Flexibility for on-demand, ad-hoc, 24/7/365 flight operations.
Perform other non-flight related duties (i.e. cargo loading,
TSA, customs, etc.)

QUALIFICATION REQUIREMENTS: To perform this job successfully, an
individual must be able to perform each essential duty
satisfactorily. The requirements listed below are representative
of the knowledge, skill, and/or ability required. Reasonable
accommodations may be made to enable individuals with
disabilities to perform the essential functions.

Meet minimum 2,000 TT, 1,200 MEL, 500 PIC, 500 turbine
100% of rotor wing time counts towards total, 50% of ME rotor
wing time counts towards MEL totals, up to 650 hours
Must have minimum 100 hours’ time logged in last 12 months
(prefer turbine and/or multi engine experience.
No felony convictions. No misdemeanor or DUI/DWI convictions
within last 7 years.
No accidents, incidents or other violations allowable unless
pre-approved by Director of Operations and Chief Operating Officer.
Be willing to take a drug test.
Be willing to undergo a back ground and credit check prior to
hire.
Be able to furnish proof of eligibility for employment in the
United States and hold a current U.S. Passport.
Must hold an FCC license.
Must be capability to obtain a CANPass for expediting customs.
For pilots hired outside the Detroit area, they must be able
to relocated or establish local residence for days on duty/call.
Able to report to the airport within 30 minutes for ASAP flights.
Be willing to work scheduled holidays and weekends.
Duty rig flight credits for mandatory company assigned training.
11 hard days off per month.
Must be willing to travel extensively, both domestic and
international.

EDUCATION and/or EXPERIENCE:

Meet minimum 2,000 TT, 1,200 MEL, 500 PIC, 500 turbine
100% of rotor wing time counts towards total, 50% of ME rotor
wing time counts towards MEL totals, up to 650 hour.
High school diploma required, college degree preferred.

LANGUAGE SKILLS: Ability to read and comprehend simple
instructions, short correspondence, and memos. Ability to write
simple correspondence. Ability to effectively present information
in one-on-one and small group situations to customers, clients,
and other employees of the organization. Fluent English is
required, additional languages would be helpful.

MATHEMATICAL SKILLS: Ability to add, subtract, multiply, and
divide in all units of measure, using whole numbers, common
fractions, and decimals.

REASONING ABILITY: Ability to apply commonsense understanding to
carry out instructions furnished in written, oral, or diagram
form. Ability to deal with problems involving several concrete
variables in standardized situations.

CERTIFICATES, LICENSES, REGISTRATIONS:

FAA Commercial Pilot MEL license (with not restrictions of
waivers that would prevent performing assigned duties)
First class medical
FCC license
U.S. Passport

OTHER SKILLS and ABILITIES: Communication skills, and basic
typing/computer skills are required. Knowledge in internet,
Microsoft applications.

PHYSICAL DEMANDS: The physical demands described here are
representative of those that must be met by an employee to
successfully perform the essential functions of this job.
Employee may occasionally lift boxes or move pallets up to

While performing the duties of this job, the employee is
regularly required to sit; use hands to finger, handle, or feel
objects, tools, or controls; and talk or hear. The employee
frequently is required to reach with hands and arms. The employee
is occasionally required to stand; walk; and stoop, kneel,
crouch, or crawl.

WORK ENVIRONMENT: The work environment characteristics described
here are representative of those an employee encounters while
performing the essential functions of this job. Reasonable
accommodations may be made to enable individuals with
disabilities to perform the essential functions.

While performing the duties of this job, the employee is
occasionally exposed to fumes or airborne particles. The noise
level in the work environment is usually moderate.

apply online.

USA Jet Airlines is an Equal Opportunity Employer.
Address:

USA Jet Airlines
2068 E Street.
Belleville, MI 48111

Application Info:
http://www.avianation.com/aviation_jobs/jobDetail.cfm?jobID=12363740477&tparm=0

Greeting from Malaysia

fliteadmin — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:55:06 +0100

Hello Michael,

Welcome to the international pilot community. What brought you here, where are you on your career ladder? Just started flying or already seasoned?

Best regards,
Stefan

Greeting from Malaysia

michaelpilot — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 04:37:13 +0100

Hello Everyone here,

I am Michael Anthony from Malaysia. I am a 27 years old and starting my first day here. I am just so excited to know you all guys.

kindest,

Michael Anthony

ok so here's a deal for you...

chromofoam — Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:15:00 +0100

I have a deal for any UK pilots (non commercial, mind you)

If anyone is going up in a light aircraft...or microlight...or business jet....or [insert any aircraft here that I can get my mitts on] would you like some scintillating and witty company?

happy to regale you with my tales of being an RAF cadet in years gone by, comical stories of nauseating rides in the back of chinooks, and covering the telephone receiver at RAF St Mawgan in toothpaste and boot polish.

Failing that...I'll buy you a pint, some lunch and a few quid for Avgas (unless you're flying a jet in which case it's your round!)

I'm based in Hertfordshire, so Panshanger, Luton, Elstree are my nearest strips.

hey...if you don't ask.....well....