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Who are the best trained pilots in the business?
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Written on: 11. 12. 2011 [18:30]
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fliteadmin
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The level a pilot achieves is dependent on his own attitude and efforts, but is also largely influenced by the training he/she receives. Who do you think are one of the best trained pilots out there? Which companies are investing into flight crew training a little more than just the bare legal requirement? If you know such an operator, please also list why you think the operator belongs to this category. Pilots, Instructors, Training Managers, all are welcome to reply to this thread. flightwork.com - International Pilot Network |
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Written on: 14. 02. 2012 [20:55]
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ekranoplan
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The best trained I have seen are those either with a Military background or working for companies who have employed TRIs/TREs from Military/Test Pilot School/Post Graduate Colleges. Here are a few companies in the UK that have excellent pilot training: Cranfield University's National Flying Laboratory Centre Cobham Flight Inspection / Aerodata GmbH: B200/B350 ICAO Annex 10, Above average pilots testing ILS/Radar/GPS/SIDS and STARS etc all over the world. Cobham/FR Aviation Ltd - FA20 Falcon TRI/TREs Huntings/Babcock/ UK Military Civilian Instructor Pilots who teach RAF, RN, Army, Kuwaiti, Saudi, Qatari, German Navy (Marine) pilots. They must have JAR Licences and Military Central Flying School B1 or A2 QFI qualifications. photo (c)LUKAFOTO 2005  |
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Written on: 17. 02. 2012 [22:01]
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fliteadmin
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Thanks for your post. When I train pilots in the simulator, e.g during a recurrent training, I often don't know their full work experience. I mostly train third party customers and therefore I often now little about the trainee's experience. It might be a coincidence or not, but we just started to do recurrent training with pilots that fly for the Air Force (Europe). And their theoretical knowledge is definitely better compared to their civilian colleagues! Is it because it is more and more difficult for many of us to stay concentrated, to pursue a goal with persistence? Mordern live offers a lot of amenities, all is fast-paced, much is superficial. Are these things less common in military? Is the military in a better position to demand a higher performance? Are pilots in the military doing it because of the flying and therefore more passionate, more interested in the subject? Years ago, when CRM Training began in the early eighties, civil pilots and airlines were leading the way in many ways. But it seems that over the years, they lost a lot of their professionalism. flightwork.com - International Pilot Network |
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Written on: 18. 02. 2012 [09:37]
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ekranoplan
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I think most of the answers to your questions are yes. Military Pilots have to make the grade if they are to continue in the pilot training pipeline. Defence spending is limited in todays world and fewer places are available. Each stage weeds out individuals who don't meet the highest standards. The pressures on a military student are very different to a civilian ATP/ATPL cadet. Military ethos and (certainly with Army pilots with previous experience of being foot soldiers) a desire to help out those on the ground who face IEDs/ambush daily is a powerful motivation. Early on some youngsters do have the shiny jet/fighter jet syndrome but most are realistic in their expectations and work very hard to pass the exams. Unlike JAR or FAA exams these are not multiple choice but written work that is individually assessed. Students are verbally examined as well as assessed in flight for airmanship areas such as situational awareness, communication, use of cockpit and external resources, simulated emergency handling and of course aircraft manual handling skills. It seems the EASA/JAR/EU system is flawed in that many cadets are trained to pass tests but depth of knowledge is not examined. FAA examiners tend to ask lots of questions before a flight test. But even Type Ratings have very specific tests such as EFATO and very few real world emergency senarios are looked at in the SIM - mostly due to cost. Much civilian training is Computer based/ Self taught powerpoint without a teacher. The military still use ground instructors. Sadly some airlines, the very ones that benefited from "freely trained" ex military pilots in the past, now expect prospective employees to pay their own way - even beyond ATPL. It is time they took responsibility for this flight safety critical business expense. Better TR and Line training is essential and more realistic emergency preparations in the 6 monthly SIMs would improve matters. Young pilots - especially 200h cadets or the new MPL ones need to be given realistic targets and an apprenticeship scheme - not straight into an A320 with only 70h of manual flight in a non aerobatic light aircraft! Airlines should work together to provide opportunities to fly a Turbo prop or even work in a Flight School before going to an automated JAR25 machine. Upset recovery training should be paid for by the airlines - at least 1h per year in a real aircraft. The authorities need to make things harder on the knowledge front - not just multiple guess questions about irrelevant subjects. Without this I think the accident rate will sadly rise. |
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